Thomas Blayney, tailor of London link
including a New Zealand branch

 

Thomas Blayney baptised Westminster 1754 - descendants

The oral tradition is that this branch of Greater London Blayneys descended from Irish Blayneys, moving after an inter-family religious feud. Recent research has placed this story in doubt, at least as it applies to our Thomas Blayney. We have, with the help of a number of others, particularly Terry Muff [804] and Kevin McKenzie [145], been able to establish a relatively clear line of descent all the way from the first Blayney (Evan of Tregynon, Wales) to our Thomas.
See the ancestry of Thomas Blayney born 1754 in London

Here is a mix of information received from Terry Muff [804], descended from Thomas Blayney (1827-1913), Ian Blayney [127], descended from Frederick Blayney (1840/1-?1894/5), Bob Bowles [143], descended from Harriet Blayney (1824-1897), Michael (& Juliet) Blayney [148], descended from Benjamin Blayney (1829-1897), Jane Gibson [149], descended from Francis Blayney (1839-1903) and my family, descended from Alexander Blayney (1843-1924). Other information comes from some secure Internet info, as well as information obtained from memories and histories of living New Zealand Blayneys (some now deceased). Terry's list of Thomas & Rebecca Blayney's children has nine matches with my list [shown in bold], including the correct birth year for my g-grandfather Alexander, so I am more than confident Terry is my 3rd Cousin once removed. Names of children of Thomas & Rebecca confirmed by census or BDM records are underlined

Research by Terry Muff [804] linked to that from Robert (Bob) Blayney and Kevin Mckenzie has identified the link back to Montgomeryshire which you can see in my Link page.

 

Terraced houses of same
style of Ashford St Hackney
 

Linendraper 1818
 

Victorian Cheapside, becoming
Poultry (Bucklersbury to right) by
T H Shepherd, engraver W Wallis
 

Willcox & Gibbs sowing machine

In 1871 Willcox & Gibbs were
based at 150 Cheapside (3 doors
away from where the Blayney
firm had been). These machines
probably contributed to the
loss of profit for tailers.
1 Thomas BLAYNEY b.14Aug1754 London, England. bpt.29Aug1754 (Parish of St John, Westminster) Oral tradition has him as the son of a shoemaker, and the evidence uncovered by T Muff has his parents as Mary and Richard BLAYNEY of London]. Thomas learned his trade working for his cousin Richard, (son of Rev Blayney) and James Smith (Haberdasher) at 156 Cheapside [854]. He subsequently worked as a tailor at No 2 St Agnes (Well) Circus, Old St Road, Finsbury 1808 to 1816, [see the Blayney London] and was variously named Mr, Thomas, or Thos Blayney, Blany or Blaney. He also appears to have learnt his trade from James Smith in the haberdashery shop at 156 Cheapside. d.1819; bur.4Jul1819 (Bethnal Green) [Non-Conformist Record Index RG4-8] [1263] It is now clear that he was married twice +(1)Mary [IGI] HOLMES m.1780 2 Thomas BLAYNEY chr.9Apr1781 (St Clement Danes, Westminster, London) [IGI] (previously thought to have been our ancestor, but it would now appear that he could have died young, explaining why the first son of Thomas b.1754 and his second wife was also named Thomas [804]) 2 John BLAYNEY chr.2Nov1783 (St Clement Danes, Westminster, London) [IGI] Quite likely named after Richard "of London" Blayney's youngest son. +(2)Priscilla Charlotte SARGEANT b.2Mar1775; bpt.29Mar1775 (St Luke, Old Street) m.4Aug1795 St Luke Old Street, Finsbury. d/o William and Susanna SARGEANT; d.1841 in Bethnal Green. Two children identified, Thomas & Elizabeth, although a third (Arthur) now looks likely [145]. 2 Thomas BLAYNEY b.1796 See Thomas below. 2 Elizabeth BLAYNEY b.7Sep1805, bap.31Aug1830 (St Leonards, Shoreditch) [1263] Her father, Thomas was shown as being deceased on the baptism certificate and that they were living in Ashford Street, Finsbury. [804] + Joseph WRIGHT m.1829 (St Luke Old St) and most probably: 2 Arthur BLAYNEY grocer/milkman/dairyman b.~1813 (St Lukes) d.?1884 (Islington, Middlesex) aged 72 [130] + Elizabeth HANSON b.~1818 (Shoreditch); m.1838 (Bethnal Green) [130] 3 William Cornelius BLAYNEY b.~1839 (Bethnal Green); d.1895 (Hackney) [130] Occ. Warehouseman then Green Grocer Possibly the same person as William (Bill) Cornelius BLAYNEY 3 Walter Hanson BLAYNEY b.1841 (Bethnal Green) [130]; Warehouseman in 1861 Possibly the same person as Walter Hansen BLAYNEY 3 Joseph BLAYNEY b.1847 (Bethnal Green) [130]; Milkman in 1861; Builder in 1881; Bricklayer in 1901 + Eliza BRAZIER b.~1846/7; m.1878 (both Hackney) 4 Eliza BLAYNEY b.~1872 (Hackney) ? = the Elizabeth Louisa Blayney b.1873 (Hackney) 4 Joseph BLAYNEY b.~1887 (Hackney) 3 Sarah Ann BLAYNEY b.1849 (Bow / Poplar) [130] + William Frederick SMITH m.1880 (Bethnal Green) 3 Emma BLAYNEY b.1851 (Bethnal Green) [130] 3 May Ann BLAYNEY b.1853 (Bethnal Green) [130] + William DAVIES m.1878 (Bethnal Green) 3 Jonah BLAYNEY b.1857 (Bethnal Green) [130] 2 Thomas BLAYNEY b.1796 (Finsbury) ?chr.10Nov1797 St Matthew Bethnal Green [152] Occ. Journeyman Tailor. d.Sep1854 (Hackney Wick) of Cholera. It is possible Thomas fathered a child when he was about 17..... + ? 3 Arthur BLAYNEY b.~1813 Occ. Grocer, milkman, dairyman + Rebecca LAMBERT b.27Dec1804 Bethnal Green, London, chr. 1804 Bethnal Green [152]; d.?1889 [130]; d/o Francis and Mary LAMBERT m.15Oct1823 St Matthew, Bethnal Green [127] [128]; Witness was Elizabeth, the sister of Thomas consistent with a pre 1823 death of Thomas Blayney b.1754. Living with son Henry Alexander Blayney at 1881 Census
A description of conditions in Shoreditch and Bethnal Green, and a story about an apprentice tailor named Thomas is given on the Blayney London page.

The 1841 Ossulstone Census has Thomas listed as 40 (he was about 45) and Rebecca as 35 (she was 36), but the children generally match. They were more accurate in 1851 [See 1841 & 1851 Census returns here.]

Oral tradition is that there were up to 17 children! [142]], so I have listed those with confirming evidence in bold.

I have 17 names from various sources, having eliminated those belonging to Thomas b.1820. However only 11 are in the 1841, 1851 or 1861 census lists [see here.]

Note that the four (five) oldest boys all married a (separate) Mary Ann!


Harriet
3 Harriet BLAYNEY photo b.22Oct1824; d.9Jan1897(2) + Shadrach RAVEN (Tailor) b.10Jan1824 (Willingham, Cambridge); d.30Aug1883 [904] m.27May1844 (Christ Church) [143] [868] They lived at 27 Whiler St. In 1854 they moved with their children to USA, settling in Syracuse NY in 1855; d.30Aug1883 See the Harriet BLAYNEY family 3 Beatrice (Beatie) BLAYNEY b.~1825 I don't think she was the Beatie I have photos of. Other details unknown 3 Catherine BLAYNEY b.(Mar)1838 [1268] [or b~1826 as aged 15 in the 1841 census but could be a guest). Probably the Catherine BLAYNEY witness to Harriet and Shadrach's wedding + James Francis MARETT married a Katherine Emma Blayney 1(4)Jul1848 (Saint Pancras, London) 3 Thomas BLAYNEY photo b.1827 d.1913. Cabinet Maker, presumably a more profitable business than haberdashery, particularly with cheap imported goods flooding the market in the later 19th century.

Tom Blayney b.1827

Benjamin b.1829
Thomas married thrice: +(1)Mary Ann HARRISS m.Sep1850 (Hackney) [130] +(2)EmilyEmily Martha GRIMWOOD, a dressmaker m~1864 +(3)Rosina m.1878/81. [804]). See the Thomas Blayney family NOTE: This is not the same person as the Thomas b.1820, who was born, married (to Margaret, not a Mary Ann) and died in Wales. 3 Benjamin BLAYNEY photo b.1829 chr.1830 Bethnal Green [152] d.Mar1898 (Hackney) [130] Dealer in Poultry Listed as Benjiman BLAYNEY, Salesman, age 52 in the 1881 British Census [804] + Mary Ann HARLING b.1832-1903 they had 9 Children. See the Benjamin BLAYNEY family         

Martha née Blayney

?Rebecca McCarthey

Lizzie Blayney

Mary Ann Parish
 

Bill Blayney

Bill's wife
 
 
 

Frederick Blayney

Martha wife of Fred B
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Alexander Blayney

Rebecca Blayney
3 ?Robena or Martha BLAYNEY photo + ___ Possible confusion with Martha BARRETT, Fred Blayney's wife. 3 Rebecca BLAYNEY b.1833 (1831) photo Occ. 1851 "Servant" + ___ McCARTHEY [1861 Census had the family as "Blaney" and Rebecca McCarthey as a daughter[371] The picture of ?Rebecca McCarthey looks very much another Rebecca Blayney (the wife of Alexander) and has written on the back (in Muriel Blayney's handwriting) - "Mother of Thomas Athol Blayney and Frank Blayney" so the photo is more likely to be Alexander's wife 3 Elizabeth (Lizzie) BLAYNEY photo. The photo is the only real evidence she was a daughter of Thomas and Rebecca (she is not in any census record with them so she may well be Bill's daughter, Elizabeth (Eliza). 3 William (Bill) C BLAYNEY photo b~1834 chr.1840 + Mary Ann TINSON photo (see photo) See the Bill BLAYNEY family Latest evidence suggests that Bill's father was Arthur, not Thomas [1267] but clearly treated like a son of Thomas (as demonstrated by photos held by Alexander's son Thomas, my grandfather). William is not found listed with Thomas and Rebecca's family in the 1841 or 1851 Census 3 Mary Ann BLAYNEY photo b.1835 chr.1835 Bethnal Green [152] + ?Richard PARISH b~1834 See the Mary Ann PARISH née BLAYNEY family 3 Samuel (Sam) BLAYNEY b.(Sep)1837 (Bethnal Green) [BDM]; chr.1838 Bethnal Green [152] Occ. Milkman and/or Policeman + Mary Ann FRANCIES m.(Jun1)857 (Bethnal Green) See the Samuel BLAYNEY family 3 Francis (Frank) BLAYNEY b.(Mar)1839 (Bethnal Green); chr.1839 Bethnal Green [152] d.1903). Occ. cabinet maker in Bow [10] + Mary Ann HARVEY m.(Dec)1859 [130]] See the Francis BLAYNEY family 3 Frederick BLAYNEY photo b.1841 chr.1841 Bethnal Green [152] m.1864; occ: Cabinet Maker; ?d.1894/5 + Martha BARRETT photo of Cork, Ireland. b.1842 m.(Sep)1864 [BDM] at St Mary, Bow but they moved to Hackney (London). See the Fred BLAYNEY family 3 Walter Hanson (Hansen) BLAYNEY b.(Sep)1841 at Bethnal Green [130] [Most likely to be cousin to Fred (same age), son of Alfred] Emm to NZ ?arriving Auckland, 4Feb1884 on the Manapouri [131] Also lived in Argyl Street Morningside, Auckland Walter Hanson BLAYNEY, Settler; Fined 5s (7s costs) for leaving his cart unattended (Beach Road, 1900)! d.unm.11Jun1914 (Auckland) [122] [142] [865] Probably the "William" Hanson BLAYNEY who sold land in Avondale 1911 [499] and the Walter Hanson Blayney whose Death Duties came to £1,248 in 1915 [1250]. 3 ?Nathan BLAYNEY [No records] 3 Alexander Henry BLAYNEY photo My great-grandfather, A.K.A. Henry Alexander BLAYNEY [1268] but using Alexander by 1861 Census b.1843 (Bethnal Green) chr.1843 Bethnal Green [152], 16th of 17 children [142]; Occ. Cabinet Maker (1881) Em. to New Zealand in 1893, d.11Sep1924 + Rebecca (Beckie) NICOLS photo b~1865 (Hackney, England); Living as "niece" with Henry (Alexander) and his mother at the 1881 Census Possibly niece of Thomas Nichols (Lodger with the Blayneys in 1861 Census) m.1893 ?London (no record) so probably on shipboard; d.22Aug1948 (Auckland) age 83 (Brain tumour) See Alexander & Rebecca's family 3 Percival BLAYNEY b.1844 chr.1844 Bethnal Green [152]; d.Jun1897. This name suggests (but not proves) a reasonably close link with the Blayney-Percival "African line". + Emma ("Emily") Elizabeth COLE m.Mar1869 (Hackney) [130] See Percival's family

The following are actually children of Thomas Blayney (1820-75), who has been confused by some with our Thomas Blayney b.1770. These ARE NOT candidates for the 17!

  • Hayster BLAYNEY [No records]
  • Arthur BLAYNEY [No records 1823-44]
  • Edward BLANEY (em. to Cincinnati, USA); + Mary

See other New Zealand Blayneys

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